Kip Moore - "Hey Pretty Girl" (Read 6,515 times)

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You know the drill: I give you the chart position and jhomes87 will explain it later. Ready? #4 this week!

[Jhomes87]

Yep, a big move. MCA's got ads out in the daily Aircheck emails..."power up now" is the tagline. But I still think Kip has a few more weeks of climbing to do yet before he is ready to make a play for #1. HPG shoots up from 8-4 on Mediabase and from 7-4 on Billboard. I'd said to expect a move up to #5 last week but Brad fell harder than I thought he would (a big 8.8 million drop for Brad) and Kip pulled off another superb 3.1 million gain, which put Kip a full 1.4 million ahead of Brad, and resulted in the move to #4 instead of 'only' #5.

But this means a 2nd week at #4 is in the cards. Kip's a little over 3 million behind #3 ZBB, and they'll still likely get up to #2 at least, if not #1. They're not ready to fall, and neither is #2 The Band Perry, nor #1 Luke...so Kip won't pass any of the top 3 until they have each run out of steam and started their descent. So, the rundown...Luke Bryan seems to want a 3rd week at #1 and today's update indicates that he does have a good chance to do it, but we'll see. He may indeed get a 3rd week, but he won't get a 4th. The Band Perry will probably snag a week at #1 after Luke, and then maybe a week at the top for the ZBB, and then I think it will be Kip's turn.

Hunter Hayes has turned on the jets again but I think Kip will hold him off and beat him to the top.

[myeverythingku]

So, how sure are we that it's going to go all the way now?

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Jul 10, 2013 7:24:47 GMT -6 myeverythingku said:

So, how sure are we that it's going to go all the way now?

First, we have to get Luke Bryan out of the way and his all time high of 45 million audience impressions. That is even more than the country of Canada. I am saying Bryan will get a third week at top, making it his biggest hit.

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Second week at #4. We just have to get Zac Brown Band, the Band Perry, and Luke Bryan out of the way.

[Jhomes87]

Jul 16, 2013 15:16:11 GMT -6 @countrychartnut said:

Second week at #4. We just have to get Zac Brown Band, the Band Perry, and Luke Bryan out of the way.

I was hoping it would be that simple but I think it's getting a bit more complex. This looks like a surefire #2 hit at the very least, but I'm starting to worry about the possibility that Randy Houser will score 2-3 weeks at #1 and maybe block Kip in the process. Randy's suddenly only 1.7 million behind and closing in.

Fortunately, Luke Bryan is on his way down now. This week looks like it will be a shoot-out between TBP and the ZBB. It could be that The Band Perry gets to #1 on Mediabase and ZBB takes Billboard, or vice versa. I like both songs but I'm hoping both of them will start falling next week because that would definitely help Kip out.

I'm not really worried about Hunter Hayes anymore. He may or may not get to #1 but even if he does I think it will be after Kip. But Randy Houser's song has been red hot for weeks now and suddenly he's white hot. He's got one of the biggest hits of the summer and one of the top-selling songs on iTunes, and if he gets ahead of Kip, he might block him.

HPG is still doing well--it's quite the hit for Kip. And it's now very easy to see the last few steps of its journey. I think it will spend a 3rd week at #4 yet, and then it should either move 4-2 or possibly 4-1 in 2 weeks. As I said, Luke Bryan is on his way down now but I don't think Kip will pass him until next week, and I'm hoping that he'll pass both TBP and the ZBB as well by the end of next week. It's very possible that he will pass all 3 in the same week (next week), which could result in that 4-1 jump...but if Randy gets ahead then it could be a 4-2 jump and maybe only a #2 peak. We'll have to wait and see though. I'm not saying HPG's #1 chances are any less but it is clear that there is at least one big threat, so we'll have to watch these songs carefully to see how it all plays out.

[myeverythingku]

Thanks for the analysis, jhomes. Kip has said that they aren't releasing a new single until September, so I think they'll stick behind this song and take it all the way to the top. They better, anyway...would be dumb not to!!

I will get the word out to request, request, request, and I sure hope that Kip can hold Randy off!! This song needs to hit the top.

[Jhomes87]

I'm sure they'll try to get it to #1, but sometimes songs just get stuck at #2 if a bigger song decides it wants to spend a few weeks at #1. The song at #2 just gets unlucky...nothing else to it. There are times when the #2 song has plenty of audience, enough to easily score some time at #1, but if it's up against a song that's just a little bit bigger, then it gets blocked.

It might not happen to Kip though--I'm just saying it's a possibility. Randy's gonna get to #1 for sure, but it's entirely possible that Kip can still get there either before or after Randy (although I think before makes a lot more sense).

[myeverythingku]

I'm hearing the song A LOT!! That's gotta be a good sign. Any new updates guys?

[Jhomes87]

Jul 22, 2013 13:14:35 GMT -6 myeverythingku said:

I'm hearing the song A LOT!! That's gotta be a good sign. Any new updates guys?

Today's update was a clear signal. Kip is going for #1 this week, and I can't see any way that he'll miss out on the top spot. Randy Houser had been closing in but Kip had the 2nd biggest gain of anyone today...only Tim McGraw outgained him but Tim is only around #30.

The Band Perry will be #1 on the chart we'll get tonight but I'm suddenly about 99% confident that Kip will be #1 in a week's time. He gained a whopping 144 spins in today's update and 812k in audience -- just astonishing, staggering gains. This one is prepared to pull off a big finish. Kip is co-hosting Lon Helton's CC-USA countdown this coming weekend (27th/28th), so that means HPG will probably get 2 spins and lock up an easy #1 next Monday, and then Randy Houser can take over after that.

Kip might be at #4 tonight, but we'll find out soon enough. I'm not quite sure if he'll have managed to pass Luke Bryan on Billboard, since Kip just passed Luke on MB today. But tonight's position won't matter. If it's #4, then he'll just go from 4-1 this week. If it's #3, then he'll be going from 3-1. The Zac Brown Band lost almost half a million in today's update so they settled for a #2 peak. TBP got the #1 on both MB and BB but I'm betting on them falling in the next couple of days. So, we'll have Luke continuing to fall, and both TBP and the ZBB starting to drop, and just like that, a few strong gains from Kip and he's #1 by the end of the week.

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Kip Moore was in my back yard with Toby Keith at Darien Lake. This is what the Buffalo News had to say about him:

South Georgian heartthrob Kip Moore followed with a 40-minute set that came off as much adult contemporary as country, especially considering that his four-piece band lacked the pedal steel guitar that paces his handful of hits such as current heat-seeker “Hey Pretty Girl.” He served fluff in “Crazy One More Time” and “Beer Money” around the rockin’ youthful anthem “Reckless,” then leaving the crowd happy with his No. 1 hit “Somethin’ ’Bout a Truck.”

#4 for the third week. Showing at #1 on Real Time Tracker.

[Jhomes87]

Lol, Kip's music sounds like anything but 'fluff' to me, and "adult contemporary" is about the last phrase I'd use to describe it. It's country through and through with a good bit of heartland rock mixed in.

[myeverythingku]

Well I was there, front and center, and it was as amazing as they all are. I don't think I'd see somebody live 30 times in a year (unless it's Keith Urban) if they played "fluff". People are so annoying.

Anyways, this is so great about HPG. I know Kip said last week to my friend to be patient because we were all starting to freak out, and that they had a "big wave" coming. Guess this is what he meant. So glad his label is so behind this song and i so, so hope this stays at the top long enough to be considered an official #1 song!!

[Jhomes87]

Oh, this will be #1. No doubt about it. It's tracking #1 already after the first day of the week. TBP is already starting to fall fast and the ZBB is out of gas, and team Randy Houser has indicated that they'll wait until next week for the 'power up for #1' week for "Runnin' Outta Moonlight".

I can't say I'm 100% sure that HPG will finish the week at #1, since it's not written in stone. But I'm at least 99.99999999999% sure that it will hit #1. I just can't see any other scenario playing out anymore. The label is indeed behind them but you know what? This hasn't needed any phony shenanigans to make its way to the top of the chart. Its had a very strong and steady climb, based off the responses from fans and some pretty solid digital sales. What we're seeing now is simply the label saying "alright radio, HPG is peaking this week and that #1 is in sight so we're just asking for as many spins as you can give us!" The label probably didn't need to ask at all because this song was gonna be #1 anyway, but that's how radio works these days--they are always in contact with the record labels.

As for "fluff", generic songs about drinking or partying or hot girls? That's what "fluff" is. But songs like "Crazy One More Time", "Hey Pretty Girl", and most of the other songs on the album are so far removed from fluff that I'm not sure who the Buffalo News writer was listening to. I could see calling "Beer Money" or "Somethin' Bout A Truck" a 'fluff' song but that's only because those two are more in line with the popular, radio-friendly topics that so many other artists sing about currently. Kip still found a way to take that topic and put a different, fresh spin on it though, and all the other songs on the album cover different ground but are mostly radio-friendly at the same time. That's a sign of good artistic and musical talent--when you can craft such good songs from some pretty standard topics, and also mix in some newer topics too. That's why I want one more single from this album, because it is so, so good.

ETA: I forgot to post the "power up for #1" ad that was in Country Aircheck last night.



Technically, from a numbers perspective, Randy Houser could probably jump ahead of Kip this week if he wanted to but all signs point toward Randy's team waiting for a week before they go for #1, so that they don't get into a "power up" war with Kip and MCA. They're not letting Kip get to #1, but it's just both songs playing nice with each other. Each of them will get time at #1.

[myeverythingku]

So happy for Kip!!! And my birthday is on Friday. What a great gift!! 3 for 3 for Kip and happy birthday to me!!! Such a bittersweet feeling though about all of this. So happy yet part of me is really sad, too. I feel like a proud mamma though!!

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Showing at #1 at MediaBase with almost 53 million audience impressions.

[Jhomes87]

Hmph.

Country
No.1 Randy Houser Runnin' Outta Moonlight
+24007 Blake Shelton Mine Would Be You

We're not often wrong about our chart analysis here at CCC. And I don't like to brag but I personally am not often wrong.

Anyway, I may not be wrong here yet, but that's the Billboard RTT posted above...and suddenly Randy Houser is tracking at #1 today. I did keep in mind the possibility that he could get to #1 ahead of Kip, as Kip was only leading on Billboard by 360k heading into the week. That's a small about. But since Kip and MCA Nashville had the "power up for #1" ads out and Team Randy had, well, no ads out, I figured it meant Kip would have a pretty smooth ride. And since he was #1 on the RTT for the last 3 days, I thought things were indeed going smoothly.

But it looks like the Billboard race is going to be a nail-biter. Kip is basically assured of the Mediabase #1 but I cannot tell you how much I hate Mediabase. It would take a multi-page paper. Billboard is the only true chart for me and so I really don't want to see Kip miss out there again, since "Beer Money" only peaked at #3 (despite a #1 on MB). Here we could be looking at a possible #2 BB/#1 MB situation. But I REALLY want that Billboard #1 and while I really like Randy's song as well, I was hoping he'd wait 'til next week.

In short, Kip has quite a big lead on Mediabase but they are neck and neck on Billboard and as of today Randy is ahead by a nose.

[myeverythingku]

Straight from his Twitter account this morning:

Kip Moore ‏@kipmooremusic 13h
Thank u to all the fans and country radio for making Hey Pretty Girl #1...very humbled and grateful

[Jhomes87]

Jul 28, 2013 13:39:24 GMT -6 myeverythingku said:

Straight from his Twitter account this morning:

Kip Moore ‏@kipmooremusic 13h
Thank u to all the fans and country radio for making Hey Pretty Girl #1...very humbled and grateful

That's on Mediabase though...and not on Billboard

And I don't like Mediabase. Their chart data isn't recorded anywhere online, so years from now no one will remember where most songs peaked. Billboard publishes all their history. Oh well..

[myeverythingku]

Yeah, but they still count it as a #1 song, don't they? Everyone's been saying thats 3 for 3 for him..

[Jhomes87]

Jul 29, 2013 9:15:31 GMT -6 myeverythingku said:

Yeah, but they still count it as a #1 song, don't they? Everyone's been saying thats 3 for 3 for him..

Well yeah, it's a #1 on Mediabase. But I'm picky when it comes to the charts, and Mediabase will never be as good as Billboard. For one thing, Mediabase is too easy to manipulate (by the record labels), so I feel like the #1's there don't mean nearly as much. There has been a new #1 on Mediabase every single Sunday this year, except for two times, whereas we've had several multi-week #1's on Billboard. When everyone gets a turn--again, like on MB--it just seems so phony.

And the problem here is that MCA had the Billboard #1 in the bag...they just chose not to fight for it. They went for the MB #1 and completely ignored Billboard. Look, a #1 is a #1, and this is #1 on Mediabase so it will be #1 on the countdown shows...but it is next to impossible to find Mediabase chart history online, whereas Billboard is a respected magazine dating back to the 1940's and publishes their chart data in a variety of books, in addition to their own magazine.

And to be extra picky...Kip wouldn't be 3 for 3 on Mediabase. He'd be 3 for 4. "Somethin' Bout A Truck" wasn't his first single. "Mary Was The Marrying Kind" was his first single, and that didn't even make the top 40.

I just don't like Mediabase, at all. I don't think that their methodology of ranking songs by a points system (that they don't explain to the public) is a good one. The MB chart only came around in the late 80's too and never really rose to prominence until the last few years. It IS a #1 hit on Mediabase. It's a #1 hit to the fans, to Kip, to the record label. But it's not a Billboard #1, and as a chart-watcher, that's what I want for my favorite songs, so it's extra frustrating to know that MCA could've easily gotten the Billboard #1 this week as well, in addition to the Mediabase #1, but they didn't put up a fight with Randy Houser. And now what you'll see is Randy will pass Kip on Mediabase already tomorrow morning, so Kip joins the long list of "those who get their turn at #1" on Mediabase, and when everyone gets their turn, I just don't think it's any fun.

And I'm not convinced that Mediabase will stand the test of time, like Billboard has. So years from now, this #1 may not mean anything at all. It's kinda like George Strait...he got some #1's on some other charts, but those chart companies since went out of business and no one remembers which songs went #1 where. Since Mediabase doesn't archive their data, it could easily happen to them as well.

Sorry for the rant, but...chart-watching is a huge hobby of mine and I get so passionate about it. Mediabase just will never satisfy me. Call me stubborn if you will, but I won't be happy until I get that Billboard #1. Kip is just 1 for 4 on Billboard. He's still done great there, and HPG had a great run, but it had a GREAT chance of hitting #1 on BB today and the label just...didn't go for it, so it's very frustrating to me.

[myeverythingku]

Jhomes, I so see where you are coming from!! It's very frustrating to say the least. I guess I just don't get WHY they didn't go for it. It's not like they had to do much....

I mean, at the end of the day most still consider Kip 3 for 3, so he is happy and I am happy, but it definitely confuses me. Wanting to get into doing promotions for a living, it would be nice for a logical explanation because it doesn't make much sense to me at all!

And now what? Kip has said a couple times that they aren't gonna have anything else from Up All Night and that he will be releasing a new lead single the beginning of September with a new CD January 1st. I personally think this is a mistake because that album is outstanding and there are several other songs that would do well on country radio and would be hits. I also don't like the idea of him not being on the airwaves with a new song at this point in his career. I mean, I guess it's still early enough and he still gets quite a bit or airplay with his 3 that he has now, but it makes me nervous!!

Hopefully we'll get some answers soon!!

[Jhomes87]

I would love for one more single from his debut. I hope we get one.

With "Beer Money" missing out on the Billboard #1, I understood that because it was right around Christmas time and 2 other songs were going for #1 around the same time (Justin Moore's "Til My Last Day" and ZBB's "Goodbye In Her Eyes"), and the ZBB tune wound up being a 3-week #1. "Cruise" was also coming up fast at that point, and we all know what happened there..

But there was really no reason for MCA not to push for just one more day. Kip moves 4-2 on Billboard tonight, but Randy Houser moved 5-1. Kip finished about 700k behind him...one more decent gain for HPG would've gotten him BOTH the MB #1 and the BB #1, so I just don't understand why MCA didn't go for it. My theory (and I think it's basically a fact, but I can't prove it so thus I call it a theory) is that these sorts of things are worked out a few weeks beforehand. I'm sure Randy's label and Kip's label knew they were both gonna peak at about the same time, and Randy's label probably made it known 'around the row' that they were gonna push rigorously for 2-3 weeks at #1, since "Runnin' Outta Moonlight" is such a huge summer hit and IS Randy's career song so far, much like "Somethin' 'Bout A Truck" was Kip's really big hit.

Randy will easily get a 2nd week at #1 and one of the Country Aircheck ads said they were pushing for max spins through August 11, so that would give him 3 weeks at #1 if they can hold off Hunter. Actually, it will be only 1 week at #1 on MB, but 3 on BB. Very strange indeed. The labels all seem to go for Mediabase nowadays, and I think it's partially because the countdown shows use the MB chart, but mostly because it is so much easier to get a #1 there (which cheapens the value of a MB #1 to me, but whatever..)

Ashley, I'm really thinking about getting into radio promotions myself someday, or being involved in the Nashville scene somehow, but I really have no idea how to even get started! My college major is Journalism and Broadcast Meteorology...I'm sure journalism knowledge could get my foot in the door somewhere, but I just don't know how lol. I could teach those people a thing or two about the charts!!! LOL

[Jhomes87]

Also, I wanted to post this!



CLICK HERE for the audio message!

"Hey I just wanted to take a second and say thank you so much to country radio for the way you guys have embraced me, making 'Hey Pretty Girl' my 3rd #1 single off my debut record Up All Night. I'm so thankful, I'm so grateful. I understand how hard it is to break through. I'm humbled and I am blessed beyond words. Thank you so so much country radio. Thank you."

AWESOME!!!

[myeverythingku]

Not gonna lie, I just cried reading and listening to that. And, that is for sure his handwriting in case you were wondering, haha!

The fact that they didn't push will forever remain a mystery to me. It seems though, that the labels do communicate and work around each other to some extent...is that right jhomes? There is no way you shouldn't do this for a living jhomes. If anybody should be doing it, it's YOU! I have learned so much from you, Zazie, and Jon these past couple years and honestly, being a part of these boards has only made me want to do this for a living even more. I think it makes me stand out from others, because I will say that I am the only intern at my station who even knows the tiniest things about the charts. SO THANK YOU, and YES, I think you and me both belong doing this for a living!!! It's became my passion in life..so glad I finally found it.

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From Billboard:

The past couple of years have seen plenty of things for Kip Moore to write home about. He has enjoyed success with three straight hits, "Something 'Bout A Truck," "Beer Money," and his latest "Hey, Pretty Girl." Moore and his label, MCA Nashville, celebrated his success this past week during a party at Nashville's Flying Saucer.

In addressing the media, Moore said one of the most gratifying parts of his success was getting to share the spotlight with his friends, such as Dan Couch, who co-wrote the song.

"The best thing about it is that I get to share it with a guy who believed in me so much, and I him," the Georgia native reflected. "He didn't have a publishing deal when we wrote this song, and then some offers came in. He chose to stay strong, and keep all of his publishing. I learned so much from him on how to treat people," said the singer.

Moore was excited to announce that he would soon have his sophomore album ready. "We're going in to finish the record this week. Now, we're just trying to figure out what we want to come with first," he said. He said moving on to another album brought about a multitude of emotions, but it's time. "It makes me sad – kind of – because there's so many songs that I love on this record," he confided, "but it's time to jump on it. I've been sitting on a new body of work that I'm itching for people to hear."

Look for contributions from many of the songwriters from his debut – especially Couch. "We've got about four tracks on the album right now. That's not going to change. We've got a brotherhood. I don't care how much success grows, or how many writers come at me from different angles, we'll always be on these records together."

He did say the new disc would be from a different perspective than his debut. After all, he reasons he's got more to write about. "The first album was a very nostalgic, looking back – type record. At that point, I was drawing on the past – all the things I've been through. With the new record, my life has changed, and I'm seeing things that I have never seen, it's more in the present. It's much more intense – sonically and lyrically," he admits.

Is there pressure to make sure his second album is as full of hits as his first effort? You better believe it, he says. "Before, there was nothing to measure me up to. Now, with the success of the first album, there's a bar to measure. There will be some that will want to attack it. But, it's going to be such a different record. You can't please everybody, and I never will be able to."

Moore says that the studio experience is something that he relishes. "I love that part of it. I'm very much hands on. I think through all the parts, and hear them in my head. That's the fun part for me – where I get to cut loose and have a good time. It's stressful, but is also a big relief for me. I thrive on that part of the game."

The singer has been opening for Toby Keith this year, and will soon kick off a leg on Lady Antebellum's "Take Me Downtown" tour. With the upcoming announcement of the CMA Awards nominees on September 10, is Moore thinking about possibly being nominated for a category or two? "I'm not allowing myself to think one bit about that," he says. "There are things that are out of your control, and there's nothing I can do about it. If I get nominated, that's awesome. If I don't, I'll be ok. I can't let that determine my happiness or my self-worth in this business. For me, it's all about the fans, playing the shows, and carrying the people around you who have always believed in you."

[trufan]

I know I'm the newbie, and am not totally up to speed with who is who and what this is all about, but I would like to go on the record as saying that Hey Pretty Girl is one of the prettiest, best written songs on radio today. Such a simple, yet complex story of love, life and dreams. Kip is a winner in my book!

[Jhomes87]

Aug 28, 2013 18:42:18 GMT -6 trufan said:

I know I'm the newbie, and am not totally up to speed with who is who and what this is all about, but I would like to go on the record as saying that Hey Pretty Girl is one of the prettiest, best written songs on radio today. Such a simple, yet complex story of love, life and dreams. Kip is a winner in my book!

Welcome!

I agree, this song is just great. I love the structure of the verses, how each one paints a different story in the journey of a couple's life. It's not overly complex, yet it's very well-written at the same time. I've missed this type of songwriting on today's country radio. Personally, I think there are far too many songs nowadays about enjoying a Friday/Saturday night, driving around on backroads, hot girls, beer, etc. I feel like a lot of today's popular songwriters have gotten too narrow-minded when it comes to the topics that they're tackling. Thank goodness for talented singer-songwriters like Kip, as well as the writers he employed on his debut album--especially Kip's friend Dan Couch, but Troy Verges and Blair Daly are both very underrated and talented songwriters as well.

Kip's album is one of the best I've purchased in the last several years at least, and that's no exaggeration. It's especially impressive because it's his debut. I really would've liked to see one more single from it, as there are several more strong, radio-ready tracks on it (Drive Me Crazy, Everything But You, Crazy One More Time), and I actually didn't--and still don't--care for "Somethin' 'Bout A Truck", though I can see why it was a hit and why the record label went with it in their 'quest' to break Kip through.

But, I'm excited for a new album is well. He's just about done with it, and the first single is supposed to be out sometime in September.

[trufan]

Although I've never actually seen him here, I hear he practically LIVES in Charleston SC.